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Tuesday, March 5, 2013

Clockwork Prince Read Along Day #14: Chapter 13


Only 14 more days till Clockwork Princess is out!!! I'm so sorry today's post is up so late. I didn't realize blogger ate my post until someone mentioned on Twitter it wasn't up. Thank you for your patience!


Welcome to Day 14 of the Clockwork Prince Read Along. You can follow the entire read-a-long and find each of the day's posts here. Remember there's no right or wrong way to participate. Your comments can be as long or a short as you'd like them to be. You can answer one or each of the questions asked, it's totally up to you, BUT, in order to be entered into the CP giveaway (which you also had to sign up to win), you do need to be actively participating in the read-a-long. 

Today's discussion is about: Chapter 13
  • I have to say I love that Tessa is STILL thinking of the kiss with Will. That means she does have feelings for him, though I know her feelings for Jem might be a bit stronger. Do you think there's hope for a Tessa and Will relationship?
  • My heart broke for Charlotte a bit in this chapter. I admire her strength and her unwavering love she has for everyone at the Institute, but I can't imagine what she was feeling and thinking upon discovering Jessamine's betrayal. What are your thoughts about Charlotte in dealing with Jessamine?
  • I am seriously still stunned by all we find out from Jessamine in this chapter. That she supposedly married Nate and that Tessa's mother is a Shadowhunter and her father a Demon? Do you think Jessamine was telling the truth?
  • My heart both broke for Magnus and at the same time I couldn't help but laughing over his kiss with Will and Will's reaction to it. What do you make of Magnus and what he's now willing to sacrifice to help Will?
Please DO NOT POST SPOILERS. There's some fans who are joining the read-a-long who are reading Clockwork Prince for the first time. 

11 comments:

  1. ~There was a comment I once saw somewhere regarding Tessa, Will, and Jem. It said something along the lines of, if Tessa had truly loved Will, she would not have fallen for Jem in the first place, and they went on to say that she shouldn't be with Will if she ever thought about Jem that way. I can't help but agree. If she had truly loved Will, then she wouldn't have been with Jem that way. There is no hope, in my head, for their relationship.
    ~Charlotte can't help who she cares for, but she is the head of the Institute and has to carry out her duties as they see fit. Dealing with Jessamine that way is exactly what she needed to do to further prove her point in running the Institute.
    ~I think Jessamine's mind is scrambled--Tessa had said, disguised as Jessamine, that she couldn't access the girl's memories. Something is wrong with Jessamine, and I found it hard to believe Tessa being a Shadowhunter since the offspring of Nephilim and Demon's are still-born.
    ~I absolutely adored that part between Will and Magnus; he seems to truly care for Will, and will do anything to help him. His motives for it, though, still aren't very clear--he wouldn't be looking out for Will, like at the party, if it was just another payment. At least that's what I think. And wasn't a memory he thought of earlier in the book when he was arguing with Will about sending him to the demon realms about someone who Will reminded him of? Magnus always seems to be helping people for no reason we can understand.

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  2. Will needs to get over his curse. When he can do that, then he might stand a chance at sweeping Tessa off her feet. She does love him and I think her love for Will is deeper than what she feels for Jem. But Jem is actually showing affection and interest with her, while Will keeps pushing her away. So what is she supposed to do? Tessa can't read his mind. She doesn't know that Will cares for her too but is afraid to admit it, hiding behind his charade of callousness and cruelty. She's eventually going to move on. Will needs to sort out his priorities or else he’ll lose Tessa forever.

    Charlotte was brutal with Jessamine. But Jess deserved it. I imagine it was actually more painful for Charlotte than it was for Jessamine. Jess’s betrayal, plus the awful things she said, and then all her begging and pleading probably tore Charlotte apart. I’m sure Charlotte expected such deception from Gabriel or Gideon, who were present at that masquerade and looked perfectly aware of what was going on, but not from anyone of her own Institute. I just hope Gideon isn’t thinking of getting Sophie’s attention in order to get information out of her or use her against the Institute, because he’ll be sorry when Sophie kicks his butt for trying. I imagine that having Jessamine betray Charlotte, someone Charlotte loved and cared for, caused her more pain than anything the Lightwoods could do. It’s always painful when you have to punish the ones you love because they turned against you. I feel so bad for Charlotte.

    Jessamine either told the truth or believed she was telling the truth. I don’t think we can rule anything out at this point but I’m pretty certain Tessa’s mother was a Shadowhunter, a Starkweather specifically. But as to whom Tessa’s father is, I still can’t be sure. He could be a Demon or a Faerie or even an Angel for all I know. Whoever he is, that’s most likely who gave Tessa her ability to Change. I keep hoping that it’s not Mortmain, genetically anyway. Although if Tessa does turn out to be a Clockwork mechanism, somehow a creation of Mortmain or the Shades, that’s a little less disturbing than Mortmain being her biological father. I wonder if by finding out exactly who Tessa’s parents are, it will help the Shadowhunters find Mortmain in the end. After all, they do seem to have a connected past.

    I don’t think Magnus is really sacrificing anything. He gave up Camille because she cheated on him. Uncle Maggie doesn’t like being lied too. Will just happened to give him a way of getting back at the vampire—a hilarious payback as well. So Magnus feels slightly indebted as well as genuinely curious and caring of how Will’s story ends. And now I know why Camille threw Will in Alec and Magnus’s face in TMI. She was obviously under the impression that Magnus and Will were actually a couple. Why Magnus didn’t feel inclined to explain this incident to Alec, I don’t know. I’m sure Alec would have understood, but perhaps Magnus didn’t feel like he needed to explain. And I’m still waiting to see how Magnus and Wooley Scott meet each other.

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  3. I truly believe in wills and Tessas relationship. they deserved to be together. Both have dealt with so many things. i know that Tessa's feeling for jem are getting stronger, but she loves Will. she is alive with him.

    Oh poor charlotte! she sees the best in people and her family. i think this let her down and broke her heart. maybe this will teach her to be stronger and more watchful on whom she trusts.

    Magnus is just amazing. he proves to be a real friends for Will

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  4. I think her feelings are stronger for Jem at this point because she doesn't trust Will's passion for her because of the drugged lemonade.

    I thought Charlotte dealt with Jessamine like a true leader. I know she must be broken-hearted. SHe's under so much pressure to find Mortmain, plus having to deal with Jessamine's alliance with the Magister and the Lightwoods....it's almost too much to take!

    I don't think that Jessamine is telling the truth about Tessa's parentage because a baby between a demon and a Shadowhunter is born stillborn. I think Jessamine believes it to be true, but it isn't.

    It's interesting to read about Magnus' broken heart over Camille after having read the MI....I was not expecting it (from the beginning of the ID series). Poor guy! I truly feel so sorry for him. But i think he's so enamored with Will because of Will's passion and his tragic life so far because of the demon's curse.

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  5. I think that both Tessa and Will care for one another, but it is just not the right time for them. As much as I like Tessa, I'm a little upset that she's leading both of these guys on, even if it is unintentional. I think she needs to figure out her feelings before she does any more acting on them with either Jem or Will.

    Poor Charlotte. I think she is absolutly crushed by Jessamine's betrayal and that dragging the truth out of Jessamine was extermely hard for her. I kind of feel like it was tough love that needed to be given.

    I'm not sure what Jessamine has been told about Tessa's parents. I keep going back to Nate saying that Tessa is not his sister. I wonder if there mother had an affair or Tessa was adopted or something. I do think she has some shadowhunter blood in her, but I'm not sure from where.

    Magnus cracks me up. I feel so bad for him and I think he truly cares for Will. I love Will's reaction to the kiss and then at the end how he just seemed to go with Magnus's story. Too funny!

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  6. I don't believe Tessa's feelings are stronger for Jem. She just didn't believe Will felt the same. And as Will said, how could she not know?

    I'm still shocked over Jessamine. I don't think her betrayal was all her own doing. I feel horrible for Charlotte but she proves herself again in this chapter. She gets the job done and stays true to the Institute and the law. I have to say I love Brother Enoch.

    Oh Magnus! Called that favor in pretty quickly. Served Camille right- the bat. I chuckled over the kiss and Will's question on the street. Magnus' story about hallucinations. So freaking funny. I wonder if Will realizes later. Magnus has always cared for Will. How can he deny helping him now- especially after compromising Will with that kiss. Not exactly a even trade. ;)

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  7. I am a big Will&Tessa fan. But thinking back over everything that happened so far, I don't think a relationship between them is possible. Although they both care for each other (no doubt about that), they're both running away from it too. There will be no "relationship" between them until they both admit what they feel and just come right out and say it.
    I don't think Tessa's feelings for Jem is stronger though. And I believe Tessa wouldn't have fallen for Jem if Will didn't keep on pushing her away. Jem is a really nice person, who wouldn't fall for him?

    Charlotte has a very good heart. She shows her love for everyone eventhough some of them, cough* Will *cough, would rather not have it.
    What Jessamine did would surely hurt Charlotte. Jessamine betrayed her trust and even turned her back on her duties as a Shadowhunter. I'd say Charlotte is handling it pretty well though. She keeps her cool and makes just decisions not based on her emotions but based on what she thinks is good for everyone. Charlotte is a good leader and very admirable.

    I have a feeling Jessamine is telling the truth but not the whole of it. We all know Tessa's birth is a very big unsolvable mystery. Saying that her mother is a Shadowhunter while her father's a demon is quite shocking but not entirely impossible. Although if this is true, it would certainly change everything we know.
    Tessa is a special Downworlder(?) and I think there's a very special explanation for it too.

    Magnus sees Will as someone who's broken and needs help. I think that's why Magnus has a soft side for him. And right now, I think Magnus is just who Will needs.
    That kiss was absolutely funny!

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  8. * As I said about chapter 12, while her and Will were kissing, Jem didn't cross her mind once, but when she is with Jem, it seems that Will is always in her mind. I totally love Jem, and I know that Tessa cares for him, but I can't help thinking that her feelings for Will will always continue to surface. I didn't notice it so much the first time I read it as I did this time, but her thoughts seem to almost always linger back to Will. I think that when Will pushed her away that really hurt, and she feels that Jem is safe. She knows he cares for her, and she does care for him, but I really do think that she is in love with Will and just doesn't want to risk being hurt by him again if she lets him in.

    * I really felt awful for Charlotte. She knows that she has to be strong and she has to do what is best, but I think it was very hard for her to use the mortal sword on Jessamine. I think that it hurt her that Jessamine would betray then like that when all Charlotte has ever done is take care of her.

    * I believe that Jessamine was telling what she thought was truth. I think that they purposely made her believe certain lies so if she was caught, that would be what she would tell. Mortmain is far too thorough and he knew that it would only be a matter of time before Jessamine would be caught. The lies work to his advantage.

    * I so love Magnus. I was a bit heartbroken for him, but I think he knew that was coming eventually. I thought that the kiss between him and Will was hilarious, especially how Will was so calm about it after. I just love how truly good Magnus is. He has such a good heart.

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  9. * I love that Tessa is still thinking about her kiss with Will too. I am a little dissappointed that she is quick to push off on the warlock powder in the drinks. We all know they have had some serious sexual tension and she needs to admit she would have kissed him either way. Yes she probably has more feelings for Jem but Will is complicated and the bad boy. Who doesn't love the bad boy. I do hope there is a future for Will and Tessa but at the same time where would that leave Jem. There are a lot of emotion and hurt in this triangle.

    * Oh poor Charlotte. How can she not feel betrayed and so hurt. She is a strong women but even the strong must fall down sometimes and being betrayed by someone who you thought loved and cared about you is the easiest way for that to happen. I have to give it to Charlotte tho atleast she is able to react quickly on punishment and getting the whole truth. Charlotte will never look at Jessmine the same again. I feel Jessmine is going to struggle to get back the trust and family she had.

    * Jessmine has to tell the truth but at the same time it is what she believes is true not necessarily the real truth. It will be a great explanation if it is true that Tessa's father is a demon and her mother is a Shadowhunter. There are so many laws broken. But I do not understand if that's the case why is Nate a mundane and not a warlock like Tessa? I am sure all these questions will be answered soon enough. And OMG married to Nate so soon? Wow. After only seeing each other two times he proposes that's insane. We must find out if it is really true or all a set up to make Jessmine turn her back on the Institute.

    *Oh Magnus how we love thee!!! The scene was heartbreaking and hilarious at the same time. I love how Will is so whatever about the whole thing. Nothing seems wrong just another day in his life. I think Magnus isn't so much doing all of it for Will but for himself. He wants to be a good person (or warlock as it should be). He sees that Camille is no good for him.

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  10. This chapter brings one of the funniest scenes in the whole series so far, the Camille, Magnus and Will one.. but I'll get to that at the end of my post.

    I dont see that Tessa has stronger feelings for Jem than she does for Will at all, I feel its the complete opposite, then again this could be because will has 100% of my heart,though I see that Tessa without a doubt loves Jem I also see think that she loves Will more.. I think that if Will would not have pushed her away the way he has always felt obligated to and they would have gotten together Tessa would have never fallen in love with Jem, Tessa tries so hard to give up Will, to stop thinking of him, to convince herself that it means nothing, but I think that the more she tries that more she realizes that she can't, she loves him and there isn't much she can do about it but just try to live with it.
    I definitely think that we will see more to the relationship in between Tessa and Will in the Clockwork Princess, because if not I may positively die!

    Anyways Jessie... the one thing that really had my head whirling is the what she says about Tessa's father being a demon and her mother a shadownhunter, that her mother is a shadownhunter I totally believe, as I have pointed out that my theory is that Adelle Starkweather is Tessa's mother, but the demon part part is really what baffles me as I dont believe that it is that simple, not just because supposedly shadownhunters and demon can't produce a living child but because it's just to easy, to simple, there is something else, sometimes I wonder if Tessa's father is one of the Fallen Angels ... now that makes more sense to me than her father being a demon.

    Lastly ... Camile, Magnus and Will....
    This part is hilarious yet at the same time heartwrenching.
    I love how Cassie has created the perfect vampire in Camille, cold, cunning and deceiving, conceited, etc.. she is everything you would expect from a vampire especially one that old... but at that moment I hated her, I wanted to punch her so bad for being so mean to Magnus, she was breaking his heart and I could almost feel his pain :(
    Magnus loves Will, whether it is romantically I haven't made up my mind about that but that he loves Will there is no doubt in my mind... and I know that this love will make him suffer later....

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  11. Well I don't think that Tessa's feelings for Jem might be stronger. She doesn't know that can she trust Will. She has strong feelings for Jem and Will too. But these feelings are different. I think there's hopre for Tessa and Will.
    My heart broke for Charlotte too. She is a real warrior. I think her heart broke too because of Jessmine's betrayal. This is a stressful period in Charlotte life but she is a strong woman.
    Jessmine thought that she's right but I think she isn't. I'm very curious that what is Tessa?
    That kiss was brilliant:D Magnus wants to help for Will and this make him so lovely for me. Magnus has a big heart.

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